Author Topic: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42  (Read 3343 times)

Phill Lockett

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Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« on: November 28, 2015, 04:06:55 pm »
Hi all

Although relatively new to collecting chevrons , I really like the  bars on Blue cotton twill period.

I do have Bill Emerson's book on Chevrons to guide me thru a some what complex and detailed reference , which I like.

My questions are did they produce the specialist ranks during this period and also the third bar 1st SGT?

Phill


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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 12:11:40 pm »
Phill,
  Steve and I do not collect chevrons but I have a bag of them that I use for putting together shadow boxes for veterans and their families.  I dug through the bag and found these that answer your questions about Specialist stripes on blue twill and whether there was one with 3 rockers for a First Sergeant.  In the first scan, one set of Specialists is woven and the other set is embroidered.  The 1SG in the second photo is embroidered.
  What I didn't find is also interesting.  I could only find one Specialist that was applique construction.  This one is shown in the third photo.
  Hope this helps.
  Dave

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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 01:43:55 pm »
Thanks Dave

The ones i pictured are dye cut khaki bars and sewn onto cotton twill. They were used from 1935-42 and replaced with , woven , embroidered on felt , embroidered on twill , felt on felt etc..

I was wanting to see if there were any pre WWII specialist ranks done the same way.

Technician ranks are WWII.

Cheers

Phill

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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 08:09:04 pm »
Phill,
  Well, now you see why we don't collect chevrons.  I don't know enough about them except to show my ignorance.
  Dave

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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2016, 12:52:06 pm »
Fella's, this thread has kicked up another question between my young son and me.  We were watching a movie, From Here to Eternity, I think, and the 1st SGT wore E-7 stripes with a diamond like the stripes pictured above.  Our questions are:  Were they a pay grade E-7?  If so, when did the first sergeant position go to E-8?
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Wiley Winter
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Wiley Winter
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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 12:07:28 am »
Hi Wiley

I had to google "From here to eternity."

The Ranking system was a different structure used from 1920-1949 in as much as Grade 7 was PFC and Grade 1 was 1st Sgt, MSgt/SGTMAJ.

This system was was used into the Korean war.

So to answer your question The above 1Sgt Grade 1 ,Diamond with 2 bars was worn 1920-1942. Diamond with 3 bars 1942-58(?)

Sometime in the mid 60's 1sgt (c1965) became E8. However not to sure on exact date.

Phill



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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2016, 11:13:16 am »
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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 03:54:51 pm »
From what I have been able to ascertain, the Tech ranks were authorized in Jan. 1942. So while it is possible for them to have been made and issued, I have not seen any.

Nice collection, BTW. I have been able to find everything but the 1SG.

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Re: Chevrons Khaki Bars on Blue cotton Twill 1936-42
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 08:23:40 pm »
Here is a neat one....pre-war felt with unique embroidery pattern.